How can we definitively say when life begins? That’s a question that has plagued society for a long time now… and i address it and ask, can we really answer that?
Ok… so i’ve been thinking about abortion and christian viewpoints and atheistic viewpoints, so i tried to take the middle ground and look at it objectively without being influenced by my worldview. (note that this is concerning times when the mother’s life isn’t in danger, and when it’s not a rape victim, because those are HUGE topics… as is this… but anyways)
I believe that we all think murder is wrong. I also firmly believe we don’t KNOW when live begins or when it doesn’t begin.
So along these lines, no matter if you are christian or atheist, since we can’t definitively say when life begins, it would be best to err on the side of inerrency. Eliminating abortion would therefore make it so that there is no CHANCE we’re committing murder, something that is outlawed in every state, and in most of the world.
My belief that we don’t know when life begins comes from these facts:
a. because of genetics, we could take a bunch of fetuses and lay them together, then test them, and we’d know which species they belong to. SO since we could definitively tell that that baby IS human, no matter HOW it looks, then we can’t say it’s alive or not.
I’d say that atheists should be MORE against abortion than christians, and here’s why: Christians believe that we have a soul. The soul is what defines us, makes us “living” beings. SO we don’t know if you have a soul before birth. But Atheists don’t believe that we have a soul (most, at least), therefore, since something is human, they should be against it being killed.
Interesting thought at least… let me know what you think
*Edit* 11-27-09
And i just thought about another thing. Someone told me the other day that the only thing that think is wrong with killing people is the ties to other people in the world they have, which is just ridiculous.
For example, let’s say that someone has lost everyone in his family, no one knows him and he’s all alone, but not unhappy (like a Robinson Crusoe situation). So by their argument anyone could kill them if they wanted… but no one would think that’s right, so they would have to say that there is more to it as well, that humans have thoughts and feelings. But babies do have physical feelings, and as far as thought goes, thought would imply a mind, and if we don’t always have a mind then the mind must be separate from our body, which would therefore mean the mind is our soul (atypically mind and soul are considered the same, when thought of as separate from the body). And without the supernatural we couldn’t have a soul… so basically if you’re atheist your going to have to accept my first argument, that babies are living… or you can accept that we have a soul separate from our bodies… you decide
I am tired of today’s society. Never before has there been a society so full to the brim with selfish people looking for immediate gratification… what ever happened to charity and giving expecting nothing in return?
What happened to modesty, and integrity? Honesty, philanthropy, and a sense of community? There were days when people knew their neighbors, and perhaps they could trust them and even go next door to borrow some sugar, but those days are gone. Now we have a society of ingrates, unappreciative of the sacrifices the last generations have made for our well-being. We strive to change our nation and take away what makes it different and unique. We want to be like other countries, spreading the wealth and punishing people for success, and quite frankly, i’m sick of it. It doesn’t take a genius to see that those beliefs are archaic, and unacceptable in our age.
It’s time for people to wake up, and realize that YES, we ARE all equal, and money does NOT make anyone better than another person. You can’t put a price on life, so we can’t say how much someone is worth in dollars and cents, it’s just sickening.
However, we don’t all make the same amounts of money, and we don’t all do the same thing. In our country we have the opportunity to change our stripes and work extra hard to end up succeeding like the rich people today, but most people aren’t willing to put the effort required into their work. It’s not a big deal, if you gave up 10 years of your life to make 40 million dollars that you rarely have enough time to actually enjoy, and only manifests itself in expensive foods and housing, then more power to you. I hope you’re happy. Myself, I’m willing to make sacrifices so that i can delay immediate gratification, but i’m not willing to sacrifice my life and youth for that.
In a time when everyone wants to be nonconformists, there is a dreadful amount of conformism going around. Everyone must wear name brand clothes, the newest fashions and drive the newest model cars. You need to go to college and get a degree and wife/husband so you can live happily ever after. THIS IS WHAT YOU MUST DO TO BE HAPPY. Hybrids are a sign that you are environmentally friendly. You MUST protect the environment and value it above your own life or even that of your family. Perhaps we’re not there yet… but just you wait. Buy this and you’ll get be more attractive, that will make you HAPPY. hAPPy hapPY HapPy.
You know what, everyone’s looking for happiness, i’ll tell you how to find happiness, it’s a simple thought, and it’s older than the hills. Be CONTENT with what you have and where you are. Stop and smell the roses. Get rid of the clutter in your life. It’s time to remove stressful things from your life. Turn off the T.V. and throw your electronics out the window. Stop texting all the time, it’s really not that cool. GET OFF FACEBOOK.
Now as far as the government goes, i’d love to change myself from Republican to Independent, but if there’s one thing i can’t stand, it’s my personal decisions given a political slant by a party. I want to avoid party politics, not fuel them. People are raving about how the GOP is dying and blah blah blah, the GOP may be dying, but the democratic party is shriveling up along side of it. Party politics are DISGUSTING. Ya, perhaps the Republican party shares some of the same values i do, a good amount of the Republican people i would end up voting for (*cough* McCain *cough*) are almost as bad *cough* McCain *cough* (sometimes worse) than the alternative… for that reason, i would like to be a moderately conservative Independent…. but i just. cant. do. that.
You know what? I’m a happy person, and the beautiful thing about politics is that no matter what happens to our country, and how i see people collectively flushing our freedom and uniqueness down the toilet, I will remain pretty darn content.
Here is what i believe the U.S. should do (and there are a lot of beliefs out there people, i’m sure mine are not flawless). Instead of increasing government spending with the intent to get us out of debt, lets cut governmental spending AND taxing to the bare minimum. No more bailouts, no more stimulus packages, no more bouncy castles for disaster victims. It’s time to rely on the charity of good people to help out others, and believe me, when you don’t rely on the government to pay for your life, people will either buck up and do what they have to do, or starve. And for those people who really truly can’t do anything, then it’s the job of their community (it takes a village… right?
<— i hate it when you want to do a smiley in parentheses] to help them out. Legalize marijuana, and let business owners decide whether to allow smoking in their establishments.
People are begging us to get our troops out of Iraq, and basically no one appreciates the U.S. anymore, so let’s do it. Get our troops out of foreign countries where we are no longer welcome. IT’s time to stop policing the world and start policing our nation and getting the stick out of our own eye.
CUT spending. CUT CUT CUT. It’s time to realize people can live off of less, and so can our government. Nuff said.
Kick the bums out of office, it’s time to clean house.
Start encouraging progress and competition instead of discouraging it by punishing people who make money and run businesses.
Reform the school system so that teachers are encouraged to work hard. Offer vouchers to parents wishing to school their children privately (which in turn would make public schools strive to be more competitive).
Things for groups to think about:
Christians: stop fighting to bring christ “back” into schools, i don’t think teachers of today should be trusted to teach about deep philosophical truths and questions of supernatural nature when they barely understand math.
Atheists: take the chip off your shoulders and realize that us true christians are not trying to control you or tell you what to do. You are free to do whatever you please just so long as it doesn’t effect other peoples’ well-being.
Media: stop being ridiculous.
Texting: (i want to put this some way texting can understand)… crl up and die plz lol
Political Parties: think about the country for once, instead of yourselves.
Liberals: Realize that right now equality is doing pretty darn good in this country, and yes, a good amount of that is due to you. Also realize that an equal amount of the trouble we’re in right now can be put on your shoulders.
Conservatives: Yes… you are strong in your morals, but realize you (we) don’t understand everything about how the world works. It’s time to listen to what democrats and liberals have to say, and try to see it their way. Also realize that an equal share of our troubles can be put on your shoulders.
Nazis, hate mongers, bigots, racists, and Reverend Wright: please find your way to a Dharma initiative recruiting office ASAP, so you can be sent to an island that travels around and has a big scary monster thing on it.
EMOs: grow up.
Bloggers: lol… nobody really cares (most of what i write is for my own entertainment).
Socialists: Please realize that the U.S. is one of the last free countries in the world, and that as such we offer actual potential to our inhabitants. If you do not like this, i suggest you make great haste to France, or another country of that nature.
Nobel Peace Prize Giver-outers: really? o.O
ANYWAYS, i’m done ranting… kinda all steamed out. If you’ve read this far, i applaud you. 1337 words of sheer brilliance.
I can’t focus. I’m supposed to be writing an Ezra paper. Can’t… do… it… can’t… focus…
You know what I want to do right now? Go out for coffee. Chyeah. FOXY!
I hate socializing… but i don’t mind making friends. That’s my problem. So i think life would be best if people just made the effort of meeting me. That was we’re all happy eh. Also, let me just say relationships are a waste of time… skip them… for SURE. Instead of getting in a relationship, i suggest you get into punching yourself in the face. Believe me, physical abuse is a lot less bad than emotional abuse, and i don’t care what relationship your in, it will end badly.

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